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NHS Wales' IT programme 'getting balance right'

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27 Sep 2007

Gwyn Thomas, chief executive of Informing Healthcare, NHS Wales’ national IT programme
Gwyn Thomas, chief executive of Informing Healthcare, NHS Wales’ national IT programme.

After an exhaustive examination of NHS Wales’ progress in IT by a panel of international experts, the man in charge seemed pleased with the reports coming back to him last week.

Gwyn Thomas, chief executive of Informing Healthcare, NHS Wales’ national IT programme, said: “Generally we appear to be getting the balance right between doing things ourselves and looking to external suppliers to do things for us. My take on that is that we’re in a good position to build the foundations for being the intelligent customer.”

He was speaking during a two-day meeting of Informing Healthcare’s International Advisory Group in Cardiff last week. The meeting came at the end of a week of visits to Wales’ six health communities by a distinguished international group of experts who provided feedback on what was going well and what could be improved.

Being an intelligent customer is high priority for Thomas; the NHS has faced accusations in the past from IT vendors that the service lacks a clear view of what it wants and that problems flow from this.

Thomas’ background in industry gives him an insight into the issue and he says that many industries build their role as an intelligent customer on a firm R&D base.

In the NHS, he feels the emphasis is more on the D than the R; in his terms, this means doing quite a lot of work to establish what the service needs, develop prototypes and test them – vigorously. Only then does a development progress to external procurement with suppliers being used to add the capacity needed for a full rollout.

“We’ve based that really on the fact that we understand health and healthcare,” he says, but adds that there’s a need to understand software development as well as what clinicians do on a day-to-day basis.

He describes the process the programme has set in place as an incremental approach but emphasises: “Incremental does not mean slow. We have to have something hitting the clinicians that they value and that brings benefits every six months.”

Individual Health Records in Gwent

An example of this style of development has been happening in Gwent where individual health records (IHRs) have been piloted. The IHR contains patient’s personal details and limited clinical information including current medication, major problems and referrals - rather like England’s summary care record.

The information comes from the patient’s GP record system and the immediate aim was to benefit patients in out-of-hours (OOH) and emergency consultations, improving safety, efficiency and the clinical and cost effectiveness of healthcare delivery. It was decided that the information would only be available to clinicians working in OOH and emergency settings.

After a planning and consultation period from May to November 2006, Gwent went live with the system on time and within budget and by the end of May this year patient information from the majority of GP practices in Gwent was included.

Thomas comments: “We’re just beginning to bridge the gap between primary and secondary care with individual health records. We’ve got an orderly queue of communities who want what we’ve done in Gwent.”

Gwent along with the other five Welsh health communities – North Wales; Mid and West Wales; Bro Morgannwg and Swansea; Cardiff; Ponypridd and Rhondda – came under scrutiny from IAG members during visits to the communities and in feedback sessions at the conference afterwards.

E-Health Insider sat in on Gwent’s feedback given by Johan Beun, ambassador for the Dutch National ICT Institute for Healthcare, who declared himself astonished by the preparation for the event and the openness he had encountered. “We admire your transparency,” he said.

Beun praised Gwent’s pragmatic approach to moving information across clinical boundaries and its approach to difficult issues of information governance.

But he was not uncritical and urged a greater effort towards a reduction in ‘bricks’ – hospital buildings - and more home delivery of care services, supported by information systems.

Welsh Clinical Portal

Keeping up the pipeline promised by Thomas, in the coming weeks, version one of the Welsh Clinical Portal, developed through a similar process, will be launched. This will offer authorised staff the facility to:

- request pathology tests,

- view pathology results,

- view scheduled inpatient and day cases

- view patients specific to them (My Patients)

- view patient demographic details

- view previous care events.

Further information and features will be added as each new version of the portal comes online.

Open door to the policymakers

On the broader canvas, Thomas says that the Gwent development and others fit well with NHS Wales’ health and social care strategy, Design for Life. He has a relatively small central programme costing £20m in revenue annually and bids for capital through the general capital planning process

He says he finds an ‘open door’ when taking plans to the policy makers.

“The whole of the healthcare policy is really in that direction and we’ve got to be ready…when people come to me – as they are beginning to do – we have got to be ready with a solution that’s tried and tested,” he said

The biggest challenges lie in supporting the management of long term conditions and minimising hospital admissions, he says, providing a familiar analysis of the issues facing most Western health systems. Wales does, however, appear to have a clear development route to provide some of the solutions.

“It’s not a spend on IT - its on healthcare; the real business case is the case for changing healthcare,” says Thomas.

 

Linda Davidson

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1

Amazing...

04 Oct 07 09:10

...what can be acheived by someone who knows and cares about the NHS, working quietly with suppliers and customers to deliver real clinical value...

I wonder if any other UK organisation could learn from this example?


2

Makes a Change

04 Oct 07 13:10

Shame Dr G Thomas didn't deliver at the NHSIA as CEO. Remember he was at helm and had first stab with NHSIA at the NPfIT programme - when a certain R Granger couldn't even be Googled !!! I better stop before I get whisked back 6-7 years !!!


3

Whom are you kidding ?

04 Oct 07 19:10

Well; you can do anything you want for 3 million people but when it comes to doing for 55 million people it becomes difficult. In my experience suppliers are reluctant to get involved in the Welsh programme because they do not have a clue of what Wales want to acheive. What Gwen is saying he achieved is in my opinion nothing compared to what Spine offers.

Wales published their strategy in 2005 and what they have today is a portal. I am surprised at the international experts opinion because if you talk to companies who enaged IHR they will tell you a different story.

(Post edited by EHI)


4

Makes a Change - really?

04 Oct 07 20:10

"Makes a change" says: "Remember (Gwyn Thomas) was at helm and had first stab with NHSIA at the NPfIT programme." On the contrary, the NHSIA was not responsible for NPfIT and was never intended to be. From the very outset the plan was that a new Director General would be brought in to head up a new organisation to run alongside the NHSIA. A number of NHSIA experts were seconded to NPfIT, and they reported to Mr Granger. Nothing to do with the NHSIA.

I'm with the first comment on this story. Informing Healthcare is a refreshing example of transparency and critical examination of its own work. It makes a lot less song-and-dance than a certain other programme, but careful examination of the measured, open Welsh approach and its successes would reward many in the UK and international health information communities.

Another place that has been quietly chalking-up successes is Scotland. Like Wales, not perfect, but also like Wales, open and honest.


5

Not so amazing ...

05 Oct 07 09:10

Surely, no-one is suggesting that there is any comparison of scale between NHS Wales (population <3million and between Armenia and Kuwait in world rankings) and the NHS in England? Population wise, it's not much bigger than conurbations such as the West Midlands or Greater Manchester. The surprising thing is that Informing Healthcare is taking so long to deliver. And what is being described in Gwent was largely "R&D'd" several years ago in NHSIA / IMG projects.


6

re: Whom are you kidding ?

05 Oct 07 11:10

>>you can do anything you want for 3 million people but when it comes to doing for 55 million people it becomes difficult<<

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

The problem is the same - how to link information and organisational silos: primary, secondary and community mental health, pharmacy etc.

That requires defining achievable short term-goals and benefits. Furthermore Wales allows actual clinical service requirements control the agenda rather than political reorganisations and ivory tower 'process redesign'.

If you have a well architected solution that works for 3 million, scaling beyond that becomes a matter of adding more or faster hardware.

>>Gwen is saying he achieved is in my opinion nothing compared to what Spine offers<<

Yes but Wales is achieving it rather than 'offering'. The CfH spine with all its HL7 V3/SNOMED based promises remain largely in the realm of vapour.

Finally there is the small matter of the Welsh budget lacking several zeros compared with NPfIT: how does 3:55 scale there?


7

"Find a rock to hide behind, until it all blows away!"

10 Oct 07 21:10

" .... the NHSIA was not responsible for NPfIT and was never intended to be. " True enough but perhaps the reason for that was because the NHS IA had become so over concerned with internal organisational development that it was deemed irrelevant to the everyday work of HI staff in the operational NHS.

The NHS IA (who I worked for at the time) had a unique opportunity to influence the direction NPfIT went in the early days but the generally uncooperative stance of some senior managers (epitomised in the quote in the above subject line) forced Granger into recruiting his own staff, often duplicating IA functions. The Lyons review came along and highlighted the resulting duplication of effort and shut the NHS IA down.


8

"Find a rock to hide behind, until it all blows away!" - again

01 Nov 07 12:11

Yes - I was also at the NHSIA at that time and I recognise the spirit of that quote if not the actual words. There was an attitude that Granger and his whirlwind would blow themselves out and that the usual business of GP payments, national MPIs etc. would resume after a while. Indeed, for all his ripping and replacing, it dawned on Granger, just in time, that he couldn't shut Exeter down without causing a crisis of biblical proportions.

Some of the IA's senior managers did have a bad attitude - especially those who had held senior positions in the old IMG. Perhaps the Welsh and Scottish programmes have learned from the experience of the IA and NPfIT.


9

Gwent replicating IA projects - er no

andy.hadley@ferndown.nhs.uk

14 Nov 07 21:11

And what is being described in Gwent was largely "R&D'd" several years ago in NHSIA / IMG projects.

Er no, the direct lineage of the technology used in Gwent was an original development for Andrew Roberts, at the Rober Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital in Oswestry.

This was then developed with me at Poole Hospital and the Dorset local community, and further taken up by a number of other localities. These are still going as 'legacy' or 'existing' systems, and in the case of Hampshire, showing the way for EHRs and the Summary Care Record, without central support or interference.

The various ERDIP projects came later, and were generally folded in favour of newer initiatives.

NPfIT responded to a 'must do it all at once' political imperitive, and failed to acknowledge or recognise a variety of good examples of local and UK based incremental developments.

And it seems that we are going full circle with Portals now proposed to stitch together the diverse records that NCRS has become.

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